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What was the 1st prop fighter to kill a MiG-15 in Korea War? Goto page 1, 2  Next          VNFAWING.com Forum Index -> VNFAWING Website Polls View previous topic :: View next topic   Which was the 1st propdriven fighter to shootdown a MiG-15 in the 1950's Korean War? The F-51?  23%  [ 11 ] The F-82?  12%  [ 6 ] The F4UB?  31%  [ 15 ] The Sea Fury?  31%  [ 15 ] Total Votes : 47 Author Message CAG Hotshot   Rank: Admin, Site Owner, Developer, Webmaster Joined: 12 Aug 2004 Posts: 16261 Post subject: What was the 1st prop fighter to kill a MiG-15 in Korea War? Which was the 1st propeller driven fighter to shootdown MiG-15 fighter in the 1950's Korean War? The F-51? The F-82? The F4UB? The Sea Fury? Make your choice and place your vote!! CAG out... _________________ CAG Hotshot "FAF Shape Meister" Forum Administrator FAF/FA-2 Design team TSH Member/Developer -------- __@ ----- _`\<,_ ---- (*)/ (*) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Last edited by CAG Hotshot on Sun Jan 2 2:11:22 2005; edited 8 times in total Mon Dec 27 1:29:07 2004 CAG Hotshot   Rank: Admin, Site Owner, Developer, Webmaster Joined: 12 Aug 2004 Posts: 16261 Post subject: Dont forget to post your opinons on why you chose the aircraft you did an dgive us the year you think it occurred... Bonus Questions... What was the 2nd prop fighter to shoot down a MiG-15 and in what branch of the service did it serve? CAG out... _________________ CAG Hotshot "FAF Shape Meister" Forum Administrator FAF/FA-2 Design team TSH Member/Developer -------- __@ ----- _`\<,_ ---- (*)/ (*) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Mon Dec 27 1:50:06 2004 kaptor   Rank: Developer/Moderator Joined: 14 Aug 2004 Posts: 2638 Post subject: I dont know much about Korea, but I know the TwinStang held the line for a while till the jets could get shipped in. But it might not have been the FIRST MiGjet killah. _________________ FAF/FA-2 FM Wizard "Oh the horror of the seven engine approach" Half man, half machine, half timebomb..... Mon Dec 27 3:16:14 2004 Centurian   Rank: Developer Joined: 14 Aug 2004 Posts: 1768 Post subject: This is an easy one. F-51D Mustang nailed one in November 1950. Shortly thereafter a B-29A downed one of them SOBs using, I think it was the tail gun but I'm not sure. I'm not sure though if the B-29 was under the USAF or the USAAF or SAC back then honestly. Mon Dec 27 11:21:46 2004 DukeB-120th   Rank: Moderator Joined: 11 Oct 2004 Posts: 2346 Post subject: I said it had to be the mustang, I knew the 51 had a good lifespan after ww2, but good job Cent coming up with the exact incident. Was the F-82 a prop is that one of CAG's tricks? _________________ FAF/FA-2 Beta Tester VNFAWING.com Duke's Desk Column Mon Dec 27 11:34:57 2004 CAG Hotshot   Rank: Admin, Site Owner, Developer, Webmaster Joined: 12 Aug 2004 Posts: 16261 Post subject: DukeB-120th wrote: I said it had to be the mustang, I knew the 51 had a good lifespan after ww2, but good job Cent coming up with the exact incident. Was the F-82 a prop is that one of CAG's tricks? Let me give you a hint... Cent isnt always right... He isnt always wrong either! ... History of F-82 ... Its a 'twin mustang', two F-51 Mustangs joined bya center wing and tail section. Long range escort fighter that become a long ranged night fighter... CAG out... _________________ CAG Hotshot "FAF Shape Meister" Forum Administrator FAF/FA-2 Design team TSH Member/Developer -------- __@ ----- _`\<,_ ---- (*)/ (*) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Last edited by CAG Hotshot on Mon Dec 27 13:00:43 2004; edited 1 time in total Mon Dec 27 12:58:25 2004 Centurian   Rank: Developer Joined: 14 Aug 2004 Posts: 1768 Post subject: I'm always right. Mon Dec 27 12:59:50 2004 CAG Hotshot   Rank: Admin, Site Owner, Developer, Webmaster Joined: 12 Aug 2004 Posts: 16261 Post subject: dont be so certain... _________________ CAG Hotshot "FAF Shape Meister" Forum Administrator FAF/FA-2 Design team TSH Member/Developer -------- __@ ----- _`\<,_ ---- (*)/ (*) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Mon Dec 27 13:01:16 2004 Centurian   Rank: Developer Joined: 14 Aug 2004 Posts: 1768 Post subject: CAG Hotshot wrote: dont be so certain... The pagan gods have blessed me with eternal geniusness. Besides the great book of Batman says so. Mon Dec 27 13:12:40 2004 CAG Hotshot   Rank: Admin, Site Owner, Developer, Webmaster Joined: 12 Aug 2004 Posts: 16261 Post subject: Just to clarify a few facts for all those here that may be making their choices off incorrect *claims*... http://www.acig.org/artman/publish/printer_307.shtml This list is incorrect... There are some errors that I have been able to identify... 7-Nov-1950 USAF 36 FBS, 8 FBW F-51D Howard Tanner 20mm MiG-15 VVS* And is not supported by the USAF Historic Association which claims the information is incorrect. (F-15Ds were never armed with 20mm cannons and there are no USAF official kills regarding this *claim*) This claim comes from: Air War Korea 1950-1953, by Robert Jackson, Motorbooks International 1998 If you will notice from an earlier entry... the 36FBS was flying F-80Cs, not F-51Ds... 19-Jul-1950 USAF 36 FBS, 8 FBW F-80C Charles A. Wurster 12.7 mm Yak-9 DPRKAF CAG out... _________________ CAG Hotshot "FAF Shape Meister" Forum Administrator FAF/FA-2 Design team TSH Member/Developer -------- __@ ----- _`\<,_ ---- (*)/ (*) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Mon Dec 27 17:38:53 2004 CAG Hotshot   Rank: Admin, Site Owner, Developer, Webmaster Joined: 12 Aug 2004 Posts: 16261 Post subject: Ok, I see this has started to die out a bit... Let me give you another hint... The Aircraft is a radial engined aircraft... That should rule out 50% of the choices! However, the second prop aircraft to achieve a kill against a MiG-15 is also a radial engined aircraft... As is the third... CAG out... _________________ CAG Hotshot "FAF Shape Meister" Forum Administrator FAF/FA-2 Design team TSH Member/Developer -------- __@ ----- _`\<,_ ---- (*)/ (*) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Last edited by CAG Hotshot on Sat Jan 1 0:26:16 2005; edited 1 time in total Fri Dec 31 22:38:23 2004 kaptor   Rank: Developer/Moderator Joined: 14 Aug 2004 Posts: 2638 Post subject: hmmmmmmmmm.......you didnt say it was an American plane....did ja lolol Well at leaste we know it twernt a 'Stang _________________ FAF/FA-2 FM Wizard "Oh the horror of the seven engine approach" Half man, half machine, half timebomb..... Sat Jan 1 0:14:43 2005 CAG Hotshot   Rank: Admin, Site Owner, Developer, Webmaster Joined: 12 Aug 2004 Posts: 16261 Post subject: Ok, new year, new poll... I will give out the answer here for you guys... The very first prop kill of a MiG-15 Jet Fighter was by a USN F4U Corsair The second and third kills were obtained by Royal Navy Sea Fury's (I will post specific details if there is an interest...) CAG out... _________________ CAG Hotshot "FAF Shape Meister" Forum Administrator FAF/FA-2 Design team TSH Member/Developer -------- __@ ----- _`\<,_ ---- (*)/ (*) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Sat Jan 1 16:58:05 2005 kaptor   Rank: Developer/Moderator Joined: 14 Aug 2004 Posts: 2638 Post subject: well I'm interested, I was wondering if they were ground kills but you DID say "shootdown" so I assume it was an A2A. _________________ FAF/FA-2 FM Wizard "Oh the horror of the seven engine approach" Half man, half machine, half timebomb..... Sat Jan 1 17:08:06 2005 CAG Hotshot   Rank: Admin, Site Owner, Developer, Webmaster Joined: 12 Aug 2004 Posts: 16261 Post subject: Ok, here you are... On the 10th of September, 1952 a flight of 4 USMC VMA-312 F4U-4B Corsairs, flying under US Navy control, were on a bombing mission into MiG Alley at very low altitude. The F4Us were jumped by a flight of 6 MiG-15s at low alttude and the fight quickly turned into a tight turning melee as the F4Us tried to simply survive, when Lt. Jesse G. Folmar found himself directly on the tail of a MiG-15 that was low and slow trying to engage another Corsair and fired his 50 cals and raked the MiG-15, which was flying under Chinese colors(PLAAF), the MiG then fell out of its turn and exploded and crashed into the ground. However Lt. Folmar was soon shotdown himself by the remaining MiGs and was later picked by rescue helos. On the 9th of August, 1952 No.802 Sqn Royal Navy was flying a low level incursion into the western sections of MiG Alley between Manchon and Pyongyang in support of UN Fighter bombers on a rail strike, when the Sea Furys were jumped by Chinese MiG-15s. The Fury's entered into a defensive scissors and Commander Peter Carmichael out maneuvered a MiG-15 off his tail and shot it down while crossing noses with 20mm cannon fire. Carmichael then looked over his shoulder and watched the MiG stutter and belch black smoke, and then crash into the ground. He then returned to his carrier, HMS Ocean. The third kill was also by a RN Sea Fury, though I do not have details other then it was from HMS Glory in 1953. I do not know who the pilot was and I dont have details on the engagement... 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