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| Which US Battle Tank was the first to be armed with the 120mm tank gun? |
| M-48 Patton |
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14% |
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| M-60 Patton II |
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2% |
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| M-103 HTV |
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23% |
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| MBT-70 |
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20% |
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| M-1 Abrams |
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11% |
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| M-1A1 Abrams |
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26% |
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Post subject: Which US Tank was the first to be armed with the 120mm gun?
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Which US Battle Tank was the first to be armed with the 120mm tank gun?
M-48 Patton
M-60 Patton II
M-103 HTV
MBT-70
M-1 Abrams
M1A1 Abrams
Vote your choice and then post your opinion on why you voted for that vehicle!
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CAG I picked the MBT-70 because if I remember correctly it was the first tank with a cannon bigger then 105mm that was developed in the USA!
By the way I really like that Tanker Smilie! 
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| Sat Oct 29 1:08:57 2005 |
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CAG
Now is this the first US tank to roll of the assembly line armed with a 120mm gun or the first US tank to be retro fitted with 120mm? There is a tricky difference here. 
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| Sat Oct 29 5:50:03 2005 |
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From the factory Pappy... Not modified in the field. Good job digging for the angle, but that isnt the angle I used for this poll! 
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| Sat Oct 29 13:13:32 2005 |
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CAG
I vote for the MBT-70. It was along time before the M-1's came out and we were still using the M-60's.
Pappy
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| Sat Oct 29 14:08:09 2005 |
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Good vote Pappy, seems you and Eaglesbrew think alike... But did you think correctly is the question! 
Only time will tell!
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| Sat Oct 29 14:49:03 2005 |
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| CAG Hotshot wrote: | From the factory Pappy... Not modified in the field. Good job digging for the angle, but that isnt the angle I used for this poll!
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Apparently admitting there IS an angle and we just dont know it yet lol
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| Mon Oct 31 17:44:41 2005 |
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So Kap, which tank did you vote for? 
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| Mon Oct 31 20:39:31 2005 |
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I voted M1A1. The M1 had a 105mm gun and I think the MBT-70 was supposed to get 152mm or something like that.
Don't know what it ended up with, though, but I would be surprised if they changed to a 120mm gun. Did any MBT-70s serve in combat units? I thought the programme was cancelled before there was any large scale production.
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| Tue Nov 1 14:49:47 2005 |
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Just did some research. I know what the correct answer is, but Im not going to spoil it for you guys.
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| Tue Nov 1 14:54:06 2005 |
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Never said anything about the tanks serving in a combat units...
And yes Tank you are not allowed to do research in polls! 
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| Tue Nov 1 16:51:09 2005 |
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Kap, havent seen you post a vote yet, just an opinion...
Did you vote yet?
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| Thu Nov 3 1:03:07 2005 |
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I did the research after voting, because I didn't know one of those tanks ...
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| Thu Nov 3 16:07:28 2005 |
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Doesnt much matter now bubbs... no new vbotes anyway!
The answer is...
The M103 Heavy Tank Vehicle...
A post WWII heavy tank that was the first US tank armed with a 120mm cannon!
The only other tank in US service to ever carry the 120mm cannon is the M1A1 & M1A2...
| Quote: | M103 Heavy Tank Vehicle
The M103, the Heavy Tank variant of the M48 series, was designed to counter to the Soviet's JS III heavy tanks, which outclassed all other US tanks during the immediate period following World War II. At nearly 65 tons, it was by far the heaviest tank placed in service by the US Army prior to the advent of the M1 Abrams.
The strong family resemblance to the M48 was based on the components common to both vehicles. The suspension was similar to that of the M48, though modified to carry the increased weight. The M103 had one additional road wheel on each side, though unlike the M48 most of the M103's torsion arms had shock absorbers. Six return rollers were fitted, and the final-drives had much larger exposed gear-boxes.
While the M103 hull was similar in shape to the M48, it was longer and wider, and had thicker armor with better ballistic shape in the forward hull. The engine deck was unlike that of the M48. The turret was totally different, with a large bustle to enable the 120mm gun to recoil. The ballistic shape was excellent from the front, but poor from the rear. The machine gun mount was used to allow the gun to be trained, elevated, and fired from within the vehicle.
The M103A1 differed slightly from the M103, having improved fire-control devices that resulted in minor changes in the turret shape.
The M103A2 was the Heavy Tank variant of the M60 series. It had the large bulged rear engine deck, typical of the diesel engined M48 and M60. It saw service, with a few being around into the 1970's. |
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| Sat Nov 5 21:04:11 2005 |
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I voted for the M-103.......................just a few minits ago.
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